

Maybe this has never happened to you, but I know it has to me.
Youâre heading into a client meeting for the first time, a networking event, or maybe youâre just chatting with a friendly face on a delayed flight. You know you need to build some rapportâitâs crucial in this businessâbut you start talking and... nothing clicks.
Then it hits. That awful, heavy silence.
By the way, how long do you think a silence has to be present before it becomes truly awkward?
Believe it or not, researchers have looked at this. A study cited by NBC News mentioned a Dutch psychologist who found that just four seconds of silence can make people feel distressed, afraid, hurt, and rejected. Not exactly the calm, confident feeling we want to leave with a potential client or connection, right?
The good news is you are not doomed to awkward small talk. You just need a simple, reliable framework that takes the pressure off and lets your natural, empathetic self shine through.
The core issue is often misplaced focus. When we feel pressure to perform, we get stuck in our heads, focusing only on what we are going to say next.
As the great leadership expert John Maxwell often says, âItâs difficult to find common ground with others when the only person youâre focused on is yourself.â
Your greatest strength as a salesperson or realtor is your ability to connect and understand people. This isn't a technique; it's a matter of shifting your mindset from 'What do I want to say?' to 'What can I learn about this person?'
The tool I want to share with you today is designed to do exactly that. It's something I picked up years ago in the Dale Carnegie course, and it genuinely helped me overcome some of my own introverted tendencies. We call it the Conversation Stack.
The Conversation Stack is a simple metaphorâa visual association toolâthat gives you a mental map of open-ended conversation topics. Itâs a gentle guide that helps you blend into a flowing conversation and naturally find common ground.
The best part? You already possess the Unconditional Respect and Integrity needed to use it effectively. You're just giving your good intentions a structure.
Here is the DGA version of the Conversation Stack:
The Visual: Picture a large brass name plate floating right in front of them with their name on it.
The Prompt: Often, we forget a name two seconds after hearing it. This visual helps you focus. If you miss it, itâs okay to politely ask, "I want to make sure I got that right. How do you spell your first name?" This shows respect and Commitment to the interaction.
The Visual: Picture the name plate on the front of a big, memorable house.
The Prompt: This is where you ask about where they live now or maybe where they grew up. For a realtor, this is gold. Try: "That's interesting. What first brought you to this area?" or "Where did you grow up? What was that like?"
The Visual: Now picture a bunch of kids happily playing in the front yard.
The Prompt: This naturally prompts questions about their family, if they have one. Be gentle and open: "Is your family nearby?" or "What does your ideal Saturday morning look like?" This asks about family life without being intrusive.
The Visual: On the chimney of the house, you see a massively large, leather work glove.
The Prompt: Ask about their work. Instead of the blunt, "What do you do?" which can feel like an interrogation, try this: "What's the most rewarding part of the work you do?" or "What does your day-to-day look like?" This opens a deeper conversation than just a job title.
The Visual: In the hand of the work glove is a huge tennis racket.
The Prompt: This symbolizes their interests, hobbies, and activities. This is where you find the common ground. Ask: "When you're not working, what do you do to recharge and relax?"
The Visual: Finally, stuck in the webbing of the tennis racket is an airplane.
The Prompt: This represents places they have traveled to or where they would like to go. "Is there a favorite travel memory you have, or maybe a place you're dreaming of visiting next?"
The Conversation Stack isn't a script you run through robotically. It's a series of launch points. It grounds you when you feel uncertain, ensuring you have a steady stream of open-ended, non-threatening questions to draw from.
When you ask questions from this stack, you are doing three powerful things:
You are demonstrating empathy. You are showing Commitment to understanding the other person's life.
You are finding points of natural connection. If they love hiking (interest), and you do too, you've found common ground.
You are leveraging your strength. Your strength is being a listener and a problem-solver, not a talker.
Better connection always leads to better communication. The Harvard Business Review once stated that the number one criteria for advancement and promotion for professionals is an ability to communicate effectively. As a realtor, thatâs your most essential skill.
If youâve been feeling overwhelmed by networking or initial client meetings, take a breath. You don't need a high-pressure pitch. You need a gentle map.
The Conversation Stack is that map. It transforms the daunting task of "connecting" into a simple, step-by-step process of learning about another person's world. By focusing on them, you free yourself to be your most authentic, confident self.
Start practicing this mental stack today. Youâll be surprised how quickly the awkward silence melts away and is replaced by meaningful, genuine conversation.
Q: How can new realtors network effectively? A: New realtors can network effectively by shifting their focus from selling to listening and learning. Use tools like the Conversation Stack to genuinely engage people, ask thoughtful, open-ended questions, and seek to understand their needs and interests before ever mentioning a sale.
Q: How do I overcome the fear of small talk in sales? A: Overcome the fear of small talk by seeing it as a bridge, not a hurdle. Small talk is how you establish trust and mutual comfort. A mental framework, like DGAâs Conversation Stack, provides ready-made, non-invasive topics, ensuring you always have a confident question ready to go.
Q: What is the biggest mistake new salespeople make in rapport building? A: The biggest mistake is the inability to listen. Many new salespeople focus on waiting for their turn to speak or deliver their pitch. True rapport is built through active, empathetic listening that confirms to the client that you respect their perspective and are committed to understanding their unique situation.


Maybe this has never happened to you, but I know it has to me.
Youâre heading into a client meeting for the first time, a networking event, or maybe youâre just chatting with a friendly face on a delayed flight. You know you need to build some rapportâitâs crucial in this businessâbut you start talking and... nothing clicks.
Then it hits. That awful, heavy silence.
By the way, how long do you think a silence has to be present before it becomes truly awkward?
Believe it or not, researchers have looked at this. A study cited by NBC News mentioned a Dutch psychologist who found that just four seconds of silence can make people feel distressed, afraid, hurt, and rejected. Not exactly the calm, confident feeling we want to leave with a potential client or connection, right?
The good news is you are not doomed to awkward small talk. You just need a simple, reliable framework that takes the pressure off and lets your natural, empathetic self shine through.
The core issue is often misplaced focus. When we feel pressure to perform, we get stuck in our heads, focusing only on what we are going to say next.
As the great leadership expert John Maxwell often says, âItâs difficult to find common ground with others when the only person youâre focused on is yourself.â
Your greatest strength as a salesperson or realtor is your ability to connect and understand people. This isn't a technique; it's a matter of shifting your mindset from 'What do I want to say?' to 'What can I learn about this person?'
The tool I want to share with you today is designed to do exactly that. It's something I picked up years ago in the Dale Carnegie course, and it genuinely helped me overcome some of my own introverted tendencies. We call it the Conversation Stack.
The Conversation Stack is a simple metaphorâa visual association toolâthat gives you a mental map of open-ended conversation topics. Itâs a gentle guide that helps you blend into a flowing conversation and naturally find common ground.
The best part? You already possess the Unconditional Respect and Integrity needed to use it effectively. You're just giving your good intentions a structure.
Here is the DGA version of the Conversation Stack:
The Visual: Picture a large brass name plate floating right in front of them with their name on it.
The Prompt: Often, we forget a name two seconds after hearing it. This visual helps you focus. If you miss it, itâs okay to politely ask, "I want to make sure I got that right. How do you spell your first name?" This shows respect and Commitment to the interaction.
The Visual: Picture the name plate on the front of a big, memorable house.
The Prompt: This is where you ask about where they live now or maybe where they grew up. For a realtor, this is gold. Try: "That's interesting. What first brought you to this area?" or "Where did you grow up? What was that like?"
The Visual: Now picture a bunch of kids happily playing in the front yard.
The Prompt: This naturally prompts questions about their family, if they have one. Be gentle and open: "Is your family nearby?" or "What does your ideal Saturday morning look like?" This asks about family life without being intrusive.
The Visual: On the chimney of the house, you see a massively large, leather work glove.
The Prompt: Ask about their work. Instead of the blunt, "What do you do?" which can feel like an interrogation, try this: "What's the most rewarding part of the work you do?" or "What does your day-to-day look like?" This opens a deeper conversation than just a job title.
The Visual: In the hand of the work glove is a huge tennis racket.
The Prompt: This symbolizes their interests, hobbies, and activities. This is where you find the common ground. Ask: "When you're not working, what do you do to recharge and relax?"
The Visual: Finally, stuck in the webbing of the tennis racket is an airplane.
The Prompt: This represents places they have traveled to or where they would like to go. "Is there a favorite travel memory you have, or maybe a place you're dreaming of visiting next?"
The Conversation Stack isn't a script you run through robotically. It's a series of launch points. It grounds you when you feel uncertain, ensuring you have a steady stream of open-ended, non-threatening questions to draw from.
When you ask questions from this stack, you are doing three powerful things:
You are demonstrating empathy. You are showing Commitment to understanding the other person's life.
You are finding points of natural connection. If they love hiking (interest), and you do too, you've found common ground.
You are leveraging your strength. Your strength is being a listener and a problem-solver, not a talker.
Better connection always leads to better communication. The Harvard Business Review once stated that the number one criteria for advancement and promotion for professionals is an ability to communicate effectively. As a realtor, thatâs your most essential skill.
If youâve been feeling overwhelmed by networking or initial client meetings, take a breath. You don't need a high-pressure pitch. You need a gentle map.
The Conversation Stack is that map. It transforms the daunting task of "connecting" into a simple, step-by-step process of learning about another person's world. By focusing on them, you free yourself to be your most authentic, confident self.
Start practicing this mental stack today. Youâll be surprised how quickly the awkward silence melts away and is replaced by meaningful, genuine conversation.
Q: How can new realtors network effectively? A: New realtors can network effectively by shifting their focus from selling to listening and learning. Use tools like the Conversation Stack to genuinely engage people, ask thoughtful, open-ended questions, and seek to understand their needs and interests before ever mentioning a sale.
Q: How do I overcome the fear of small talk in sales? A: Overcome the fear of small talk by seeing it as a bridge, not a hurdle. Small talk is how you establish trust and mutual comfort. A mental framework, like DGAâs Conversation Stack, provides ready-made, non-invasive topics, ensuring you always have a confident question ready to go.
Q: What is the biggest mistake new salespeople make in rapport building? A: The biggest mistake is the inability to listen. Many new salespeople focus on waiting for their turn to speak or deliver their pitch. True rapport is built through active, empathetic listening that confirms to the client that you respect their perspective and are committed to understanding their unique situation.